Comments on: Web developer features in Safari http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/ A blog about Macs and that Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Operások írták – oldalak hibáinak javítása « Bot « LavX Blog http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-12960 Operások írták – oldalak hibáinak javítása « Bot « LavX Blog Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:30:27 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-12960 [...] Safari homályos, dokumentálatlan trükköket [...] [...] Safari homályos, dokumentálatlan trükköket [...]

]]> By: Parcheo de sitios en Opera - Foros de CHW http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-12475 Parcheo de sitios en Opera - Foros de CHW Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:07:37 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-12475 [...] Safari tiene hacks oscuros e indocumentados para sitios específicos [...]

]]> By: Matt http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-12386 Matt Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:58:32 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-12386 @Percy: Yes that's my guess too. It's the lesser of 3 evils as you say! @Percy: Yes that’s my guess too. It’s the lesser of 3 evils as you say!

]]> By: Percy http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-12369 Percy Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:43:30 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-12369 I'm guessing the Site specific hacks is actually a good thing. My guess is it's to fix HTML/CSS issues that make a site behave or look improperly when rendered *according to standards*. Since these sites are likely quite popular, it would potentially kill Safari's chance at ever being taken as a serious browser if they couldn't display these common sites properly. (ie. "Safari can't even render cnn.com properly, forget it!") I obviously have no idea what sites they are, but you get the idea. So, really, their choices as I see them are: 1) Insist on keeping the standards (not a bad idea), but make some popular (albeit poorly designed/tested sites) look bad. 2) Compromise by breaking Safari's excellent standards compliance and make it render things in a non-compliance method. 2) Create site specific CSS hacks to get the best of both worlds. Transparently change the CSS (the real source of the problem) to make things look as people would expect, and do not compromise the excellence of your rendering engine. That is not to say there aren't some down sides to Option #3, but I would think they are of less concern than #1 and #2. I’m guessing the Site specific hacks is actually a good thing. My guess is it’s to fix HTML/CSS issues that make a site behave or look improperly when rendered *according to standards*. Since these sites are likely quite popular, it would potentially kill Safari’s chance at ever being taken as a serious browser if they couldn’t display these common sites properly. (ie. “Safari can’t even render cnn.com properly, forget it!”) I obviously have no idea what sites they are, but you get the idea. So, really, their choices as I see them are:

1) Insist on keeping the standards (not a bad idea), but make some popular (albeit poorly designed/tested sites) look bad.
2) Compromise by breaking Safari’s excellent standards compliance and make it render things in a non-compliance method.
2) Create site specific CSS hacks to get the best of both worlds. Transparently change the CSS (the real source of the problem) to make things look as people would expect, and do not compromise the excellence of your rendering engine.

That is not to say there aren’t some down sides to Option #3, but I would think they are of less concern than #1 and #2.

]]> By: Zack Katz http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6248 Zack Katz Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:20:20 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-6248 Nice overview of the new Safari 3 features. I wrote a related article on how to assign keyboard shortcuts for <a href="http://katzwebdesign.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/disable-styles-and-javascript-in-safari-with-keyboard-shortcuts-how-to/" rel="nofollow">disabling Styles and JavaScript in Safari</a>. Nice overview of the new Safari 3 features.
I wrote a related article on how to assign keyboard shortcuts for disabling Styles and JavaScript in Safari.

]]> By: Matt http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6064 Matt Fri, 23 May 2008 07:20:30 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-6064 It's great isn't it. Safari 2.x had the Debug menu which was pretty good, but this is better! It’s great isn’t it. Safari 2.x had the Debug menu which was pretty good, but this is better!

]]> By: Si http://mac.elated.com/2008/05/22/web-developer-features-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6046 Si Thu, 22 May 2008 11:17:56 +0000 http://mac.elated.com/?p=142#comment-6046 Very cool. I'd never even noticed this before! Very cool. I’d never even noticed this before!

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