10 ways that Windows is better than Mac OS

Having used both Windows and Mac OS X over the years, there’s little doubt in my mind that my Mac is, overall, nicer to use than any Windows PC. And of course, this is a Mac blog, so many of my posts invariably end up singing the praises of Macs and all things Apple.

However, as it’s the season of goodwill and all, I thought it fitting to redress the balance and list 10 things that Windows does better than Mac OS

1. Windows is more customizable

Change the desktop theme – including wallpaper, taskbar, window styles and fonts – to anything you like. Try doing that on a Mac.

2. Windows is more compatible

Let’s face it – practically all software and peripherals out there support Windows. (Though the Mac is getting better all the time in this regard.)

3. Choose your own hardware

With Windows you’re not tied into one manufacturer with a limited product range like you are with Mac OS (Psystar notwithstanding). On a budget? Any cheap clone will run Windows. Want something that exactly matches your lifestyle or situation? The range of PC options is huge so you’re bound to find something that suits.

4. Better keyboard shortcuts

You can access any menu option in a Windows app with 2 or 3 keystrokes, and they’re the same standard keystrokes on any Windows PC. With Mac apps you’re limited to the shortcuts chosen by the app developer. (You can add your own shortcuts on a per-app basis, but then you have to remember which shortcuts you’ve added for each app. And what happens if you get a new Mac, or use a friend’s? You have to redo all your shortcuts again!)

Furthermore, you can access pretty much all controls in any Windows dialog or window via the keyboard. Mac OS lets you turn on so-called “full keyboard access”, but there are still many things you can’t do with the keyboard (try moving from the Calendars pane to the Day/Week/Month View pane in iCal, for example, or activating the all-important Scan button in Image Capture).

5. Sensible use of navigation keys

I know I’ve been over this before, and it’s largely a “personal taste” thing, but after nearly 3 years of using the Mac I still can’t get my head around using the finger-twisting Command-Left Arrow to go the beginning of a line, and Command-Right Arrow to go the end of the line. Not to mention the Home, End, Page Up and Page Down keys that scroll without moving the cursor. Arrrgh. Windows uses these keys much more sensibly in my opinion.

6. More useful file manager

Finder can’t cut and paste files or give you a 2-pane tree view of your files and folders. Windows Explorer can, and jolly useful these functions are, too.

7. More flexible open/save dialogs

Speaking of file management, Windows open and save dialogs let you rename and delete files and folders; add new files and folders; open a selected file in another app for viewing/editing; open a selected folder in Windows Explorer; and manipulate image files:

Mac’s open/save dialogs merely let you select a file and create a new folder. Not nearly as useful.

8. Much bigger range of games

I’d love to play a lot of games on my Mac, but sadly there just isn’t the range that there is for Windows. And when you do get a game for the Mac, it’s often a second-rate port of the Windows version.

9. Easier to get help

There are many more Windows users than Mac users. If you get stuck with your Windows PC, chances are you know someone round the corner (or their kid!) who can help you fix it. With a Mac, you might be struggling.

10. Windows Media Center does more than Front Row

Media Center lets you watch and record live TV and/or radio (with a suitable card), and you can do a lot more thanks to plugins. It also works with a mouse if you want it to. Can’t do any of things with Front Row (the Apple Remote is nice though).

So there you have it. Macs may be lovely, but there are some things that Microsoft simply does better! Not that I’ll be trading in my iMac for a Dell just yet.

Merry Christmas, Windows users everywhere. :)

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67 Responses to “10 ways that Windows is better than Mac OS”

  1. wah? Says:

    While many of these are either lame, or not entirely accurate, the first assertion in #6 is flat untrue—you *can* cut and paste files in the Finder.

    (Which raises the question: how does one write a blog about Macs and not know this?)

  2. John Says:

    That explains why Vista is such a loser for Microsoft.
    If it is that good, why do so many Vista users erase their drives and DOWNGRADE their OS?
    Not even Vista users like Vista.

  3. Bill Says:

    You just don’t know how to use a Mac.

  4. pdq Says:

    Well, I think a few points are debatable, but rather than nitpick, I think this kind of analysis is good for Mac users (like myself) and for Apple.

    Thanks-

  5. bla Says:

    5. Sensible use of navigation keys
    Arrow up = Begin of line
    Arrow doen = End of line

  6. Chris Says:

    I dont want to be the stereotypical mac fan boy by telling you the obvious but honestly you are seriously misinformed.

    Without explaning too much here is a rebuttal to all points.

    1. ShapeShifter and haxies
    2. I have yet to buy a hardware device I need that isnt Mac friendly.
    3. Touche… but then you always get what you pay for when it comes to a PC
    4. Full Keyboard Access
    5. Since that’s a “personal taste” I have that the most used commands cut copy and paste have to us a key much farther away than the key they are used. For some reason alt seams more natural.
    6. can paste files. Speaking of tree view, Windows can’t display multiple nested folder files in one window. (has been a frustration of mine) i hate only being able to see files in one folder at a time.
    7. Some of this information is wrong. I dont believe you can rename a file already saved in a dialog box.
    8. Well you’re right. But then if you boot up your mac with windows then you really have mac and pc games in one computer so the selection is bigger in that regard.
    9. AppleStore, If someone needs a problem you dont need Genius appointment just anyone there, and who really needs help using a Mac its intuitive enough to learn it with ease.

    10. Boxee

    i’ll give you one. Games. Games are not a Mac stronghold.

  7. Don Says:

    I agree, but that said, most of the “better” features of Windows could be easily added to the Mac as well. Its a shame that ShapeShifter doesn’t work on Leopard, at least yet!

    But then again, thanks to Bootcamp and virtualization and Intel chips, having a Mac never means that any advantage of Windows can still be had by running Windows along side your Mac.

    Overall this is a great post with some great points being made.

  8. Torley Says:

    I found your post via MacSurfer and am glad you shared this “other side”. I was rabidly into Macs before going to the “Dark Side”, and now, I use both. So I can relate to some of what you’re saying. Depending on one’s preferences, the “better” may be practically moot, or a disadvantage. For example, too much customizability can lead to confusion, technical problems, and time wasted — as opposed to accomplishing and being productive.

    I sure wish the whole Sony suite of creative software was on Mac. And Windows Live Writer. Why there are so many wonderful personal productivity apps on Mac but blogging is lacking is beyond me.

    Re: #3, I wish Apple supported a wider range of graphics cards. The choices for even the Mac Pro are sadly limited, and overpriced (8800GT for near-US$300? Ouch!). This is too limiting.

    Some Mac shortcuts are superior — like typing accents and extended characters. It’s a pain in Windows to even do an em dash, which is why I got PhraseExpress (on Mac, I’m trying TextExpander).

    I also don’t like how I can’t right-click Firefox’s bookmarks in the Bookmarks Toolbar to edit them, but on Windows, this works.

    Even tho a menu-per-window is considered wasteful by some, I’d prefer it on a dual-monitor config with lots of screen real estate, because I have to move my mouse SUCH a long way to select items. Yes, I can learn shortcuts, but not all menu items have them!

    On Windows, I really like Direct Folders for making open/save dialogs even more useful. It does what it sounds like. Haven’t found a similar utility for Mac yet.

    Re: #9, it reminds me of what I’ve heard before: you shouldn’t have to get help in the first place if something works as expected. I haven’t found it easier to get help, because the complexity of Windows problems seem so much more horrific — I’ve often had ugliness with WinXP that others couldn’t figure out. :( Great forums like http://forums.macosxhints.com/ and http://forums.macrumors.com have covered my curiosities, for the most part. Thank goodness for the Internet.

  9. demetrious Says:

    While I can’t dispute your opinion, your facts are not entirely correct. Research my friend. Research.

  10. Sean Says:

    I understand the gist of your article, and am in no way angered by it. However…

    I can debate each and every point.

    #1. One word, Iconfactory.com. They have a program called Candybar which allows you to customize just about anything on your system, from icons to the dock and desktop background. It will also customize the Finder with backgrounds and such. Many skins are available and are quite nice looking.

    #2. Mac’s run more software than any other platform… period. Linux, Windows, and OSX. Which allows you to run almost any program on the planet. Windows is limited in this regard since it can’t run Finalcut Pro, iMovie, iDVD, Safari, iPhoto, FileMaker, etc, etc, etc. Apple actually makes some of the best software on the planet and Vista cannot run any of it.

    #3. The PC industry certainly has more choice, but 90% of it is absolute crap, just like the software. And I can customize my Mac with any number of hard drives, memory, monitors, keyboards, mice, speakers, printers, video cards, etc, etc. Apple has over 10 different models ranging in price and specs to cover most people’s needs.

    #4. There are several keyboard modification programs for the Mac. Check Versiontracker.com for more info.

    #5. There are many aftermarket keyboards with different layouts of keys. Logitec makes a nice board I have been using on an old iMac and it works flawlessly.

    #6. There is a program called PathFinder that gives you much more power over the finder. It’s customizable and works great. Check Versiontracker.

    #7. Default Folder adds many features to the Open Save dialog boxes on the Mac.

    #8. Again, the Mac runs more games than the PC now. See #2. And who plays games on a computer when you can play them on a console in front of a 50″ HD LCD from the comfort of your bed or couch? Not to mention there are many more games for the consoles than for PC’s.

    #9. Apple has the highest customer satisfaction in the industry. Nearly 50% higher than Dell and Microsoft. And as you may know, Dell is charging $12.95 when you call their customer service and ask to talk to someone that speaks english. Moreover, there are plenty of books and websites that cater to Mac help needs. I use Apple’s customer support website for many problems. There are also hundreds of “free” video tutorials on the Apple website.

    #10. Elgato makes a breakout box that plugs into your Mac and performs the same tasks as Windows Media and more. Also Slingbox makes a product that sends your TV signal to anywhere in the world, in HD. I have one and was watching the Colts play last year while sitting on the beach in Florida. All in HD.

    I think my rebuttal simply shows that the Mac platform is no longer the red-headed stepchild in the computer industry. I appreciate your efforts to find “something” the PC is better at, but I think we all know that’s simply not the case any longer. And I’ll bet it took some effort on your part to actually find something. There are certainly many things my Mac can do that a PC would fail miserably at, namely make me happy to be using it. And how much is that worth?

    Happy Holidays to you and your family. :o )

  11. Blad_Rnr Says:

    I prefer the Mac but I do wish the contextual menus offered more options like in Windows. No arguments there. You did make some other valid points.

    But when you add in all the useless pop-ups for unused desktop icons, relentless Java and Windows update warnings, USB device and wireless pop-up messages, no CD icons on the desktop (XP and below), the mountain of viruses, spyware and malware, well, I’ll keep using my Mac, thank you very much.

  12. db Says:

    I have a couple of responses:

    4. Better keyboard shortcuts
    I think OS X has better keyboard shortcuts, application wise just about everything you need is there. With the OS you can be in your applications folder or utilities folder or home folder in a keystroke. Try that with Windows!

    5. Sensible use of navigation keys
    Simply press and hold the Apple/Command key and use the arrow keys. Or use the same keys as Windows has. You have to move your right hand off the mouse anyway and your left had is already near the Apple/Command key I don’t see anything difficult about it.

    9. Easier to get help
    The built in help is very good in OS X, alot better than Windows. Also have the Forums on the Apple website. http://www.apple.com/support

  13. Brian Says:

    I know anyone can have a blog, and it’s all prepackaged, no work necessary, etc..

    But please, write about something you understand, OK kids? Virtually NONE of these points is true. And the ones that are are lame.

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  15. John Davis Says:

    You missed a few points:

    The Apple “one button” mouse
    Macs are expensive
    There’s no software for the Mac
    Macs don’t have a floppy drive

    John Davis

  16. Instig8r Says:

    @sean: Safari and FileMaker run on Win XP & Vista. It’s still Windows, but they run.

    @john davis: ROTFLMFAO Nice touch of sarcasm is what this pretentious excuse of a column needed.

  17. Partners in Grime Says:

    Merry Christmas!

  18. criste Says:

    I totally agree with #7. That’s something that Windows have that I’d like to have on the Mac. It’s a timesaver and much more convenient than having to go to the Finder every time you want to rename or move or delete a file. You can also create a new folder and move files to the folder from the dialogue box.

    I also like #6, which is the ability to cut (or copy?) a file or document and paste it in another folder. As far as I know, you can’t do this on a Mac.

    But still, I feel that the Mac offers the greater advantages over Windows. That’s how I’ve been seeing it for the past 21 years.

  19. C172pilot Says:

    #1. You are correct. Windows is more customizable. Apple has moved away from that for some reason. However, it didn’t take long for MS to copy the glass effect (Aqua) for mac with Vista! Apple tries to keep elegance and a bit of sophistication with their designs. Clean, smooth looking OS as well as the computers that run them. Their innovation in enclosures is second to none. All the other computer makes wait to see what the next mac will look like. Macs and their pricey monitors look nice sitting on any desktop.
    #2 Yea, in most part. However my razor cell phone immediately connect and sync with my mac and its address book with no additional software or drivers. Wouldn’t work on the PC at the office.
    #3 You are correct. PC’s are the Toyota Corolla and Macs are the Mercedes Benz of the computer world. No one mods a Mercedes Benz. You get what you pay for.
    #4 Key Board short cuts, it’s what you get use too. And yes, most if not all Mac keyboard short cuts are cloned from application to application. Even with MS Office for Mac. Macs use the Command Key and PC’s use the Control Key for the most part. Most mac keyboard shortcuts are very intuitive. Command-O = Open, Command-S=Save, etc. How hard is that?
    #5 Again it’s what you get use too. Personally this is a nit pick.
    #6 Here’s where you’re wrong. With a Mac, you can grab a file and hold if over a folder and watch the folder spring open, You can move it to other programs with Spaces, You can have Automator move large batch moves for you without even touching the keyboard, you can drag a file to the title bar so it is a file always available, etc. And yes, you can copy and paste. Where have you been?
    #7 Same as six.
    #8 Yes, you win the games race. I bought a Wii to play games.
    #9 Neither of the help menus are that great, but the Mac version allows for instant help and spot light is great. This capability is now being copied with Vista. MS always playing catch up. The file search routine in XP is pathetic at best.
    #10 Front Row is excellent, and yes with a TV tuner hookup or a board like a PC, they are about the same. The Mac to me wins this on elegance. Front row is very nice and comes with a IR remote control. Don’t see that on a PC?

  20. criste Says:

    @C172pilot

    You are right about #6 where you can copy and paste a file or document from folder to folder. I don’t know why I didn’t bother to check it. I might have done so before and it may not have worked then.

    For #7, try and go to an application like MS Word or Adobe Illustrator and go to File>Open (or save), on your Mac and see if you can delete, drop a file into a folder, rename a file, or create a new folder from that dialogue box. As far as I know, you can’t do that on Mac OS X. You need to get away from the application you’re on and go to the actual folders in your hard drive.

    I’ve posted this Windows feature before on some other blog and someone replied “just go to the Finder and do all that.” I’ve found it very useful in my work flow when I’m working on a PC. There are times when I may be in the process of saving a file and I’ll notice that I may have to rename a file or create a new folder and move a bunch of files into that folder and I can do all that right there without having to close or hide the application I’m on in order to go that folder.

    I know that when saving a file on OS X you can select and existing file and that name will be shown as the file name you’re saving. It’s pretty handy when you’re saving several files with the same name but differentiated by a number like, European vacation photo 1, European vacation phot 2, etc. All you have to do is change the number without having to type in the entire name. But I think that is the extent of what you can do in an application’s dialogue box.

  21. memememe Says:

    Mac OS X doesn’t have to be superior in each and every way, it should be superior in all the ways that count for me. I couldn’t care less for customization, for instance. As always, your mileage may vary.

  22. Jeff Lewis Says:

    To the people who are coming up with addons to add the features the author is mentioning to MacOS X, you’re kind of missing the point: these features come included with Vista and not with MacOS. That means they’ll be stabler.

    As for Aero copying Aqua – ummm.. have you ever actually looked them side by side? They’re really not that much alike – and MacOS X doesn’t really use Aqua anymore – having moved on to brushed aluminum.

    #11 – You can do more than select files in Explorer. For example, open a folder of MP3s. Select all the tracks for a given album, right click and select Properties (or hit alt-enter). You can edit all the MP3 tags that are common to these files (like Album name, Artist, etc). No extra software needed.

    In Vista, if you have the status bar visible, you won’t even have to do that much work – the common tags will display in the status bar and if you click on them, you can change them for the group.

    You can mark a folder as being music, or pictures, or movies… and the column headers change to reflect that kind of content – letting you sort and/or group by artist, album etc.

  23. Rick Says:

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!
    I appreciated the tone of this topic. If I wanted to dig in my heels I could find arguments for most (all, if I tried hard enough), but in the spirit of the season, I think your list is fine. It also shows me that you are comfortable using both OSes.

    Oh yeah, no one mods Mercedes, but they get them AMGd!

    I agree with poster Jeff Lewis. These features you speak of are part of the OS, not an add on.

  24. Chirp Horrorsnose Says:

    From my own observations:

    #1 complaint about Macs from Windows users: lack of forward-delete key.
    #1 complaint about Windows from me: up/down arrows at top/bottom of text editor don’t have “alternate” behavior of moving to beginning/end of document.

    …and neither they nor I miss what we don’t have! ;-)

  25. Mosh Says:

    Another mac gripe: you cannot copy a folder path. I work on a network comprised with macs and pcs. When somebody working with a pc wants to send me the location of a particular file on a server, he/she just copies it from within the Explorer and pastes it in a message. With a mac I have to type it all manually. Waaaste of time.

  26. Matt Says:

    Wow, this post certainly got quite a response! Thanks to all of you who have posted comments so far. It’s been really interesting reading through them.

    @Torley and @Sean: Great comments, with lots of useful info! Thanks.

    @John Davis: LOL (I assume you’re being sarcastic!)

    @memememe: Spot on. The Mac is, generally speaking, better in the ways that matter.

    @Rick: Thanks for your kind words. On the whole I’d much rather use a Mac. I feel that there’s the odd thing that Windows does better (and I agree that some are debatable, relatively minor, or subject to personal preference), and wanted to share those things to encourage debate (which certainly seems to have happened). Who knows – maybe Mac OS will get a few of these features in 10.6!

    @Mosh: See http://mac.elated.com/2007/07/27/copy-and-paste-the-full-path-of-a-file-in-the-finder/

    (And for those saying that Finder can copy and paste files – I know it can. Please go back and read my point #6 again. :) )

    Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to everybody – whether you use Macs, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, BeOS, Amiga OS… :)

  27. Harvey Says:

    Saying that there are ten things about Windows that are better than Macs is like saying that there are ten oases in the desert that are more beautiful than parts of my tropical paradise. For the sake of argument, I’ll concede that it is true, but why would I want to live in the desert?

  28. Mike Brown Says:

    I get a laugh out of this, sounds a little playful – like a Mac user trying to come up with reasons why someone else’s computer might seem better and these are the best he can get ;-)

    I use a Dell machine at work, complete with a Vista sticker on the outside and XP on the inside. There are three interface concerns that bother the hell out of me… the scroll wheel on the mouse doesn’t behave at all like a Mac. It doesn’t work in most menus, pop-up menus and only acts upon a window you’ve clicked in! Spring-loaded folders. Windows users are force to cut-n-paste on the desktop because the folders don’t open when you drag a file to them! And finally – Windows inability (under XP) to show you all the windows currently open – the taskbar is useless for this and with a few applications open and a few folders on the desktop open it quickly becomes so cluttered to be a serious road-block to navigation. What a pain in my seat!

    I’ll stick with the Mac, and never, ever, on pain of using Vista, run a PC in my house.

  29. zee Says:

    @ Chirp: Try pressing Fn-Backspace on a Mac. So you can forward-delete. You can try it in TextEditor/MS Word ’04-’08/Pages ’08 if you don’t believe me.

    * It’s not the exact same as the delete key: for deleting folders, you may need Cmd-Backspace instead of Fn-Backspace.

    I like this discussion. I hope this post isn’t the last one! – \(^o^)/

    1 comment: where can I find \ (Backspace) on my mac? I work on a AZERTY-keyboard.
    Image (not mine):
    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/514334623_6e2744a0db.jpg?v=0

  30. Justin Says:

    The keyboard shortcut for switching the day/week/month view in iCal is cmd-1, 2, or 3 respectively.

  31. Matt Says:

    @zee: I think it’s Option+Shift+/.

    @Justin: Those shortcuts don’t let you move focus between the 3 iCal panes though (Calendars, Day/Week/Month, To Dos), which was my point. There’s no way to do that with the keyboard AFAIK.

  32. Mr. Man Says:

    I’m trying to decide if Mac users have become more condescending and arrogant than PC users. ….yup. Perhaps it’s time to try Linux.

    Nice post btw;)

  33. simon Says:

    the worst thing about a mac is the desktop, the way windows works the icons is 10x better the mac desktop is terrible you can put them all in a certain order then when you try and resize them you can easily screw it up accidently and it changes the order, also macs are terrible for loosing windows you have to fish through a maze of them to find the one you want,unless you minimize but in windows you dont have to you just click on another window then you can come back to it. in a mac you have to find it again if you didnt hit the ‘-’ button . u can press some short cut key and all the windows jump out and you can jump into it, but why should i have to do that? bad design.
    i just tried the mac way of thinking, i sold my laptop and got a macbook pro… now 2 months later im selling the macbook and buying a windows laptop. much better OS, the laptop wont look as good but what can you do? the macbook pro is worth twice the value of a windows based laptop for the same spec so ill sell it and buy the same spec laptop for half the price with windows on it. its a shame i wanted leopard to be better but it just isnt, upgrade back to windows for me

  34. Jase Says:

    I just can’t decide, I have had the task now for most of my life, pen and paper day planner or pda, and this ranged from a Palm, Windows Mobile and Blackberry. Only to finally settle on the Blackberry and never looking back.

    Now its the Mac or PC, last December I purchased a MacBook and was very happy with it. Never thought I would look back. But about 5 months ago I was looking at a new job that would have required me to get a PC so I ran out and purchased a Windows laptop and was going to sell the Macbook. Well I didn’t get the job or sold the MacBook and ever since than I have been dealing with the task of picking one. I just can’t seem to do it. Someone please help me decide, I just can’t do it.

    Thanks,

    Jase
    jase.sommers@jwweb.net

  35. Steve Jobs Says:

    Woa… look at these Apple Fan Boys… crying, pointing that you are wrong, when you are right.

    Can’t customize, try iconfactory, shapeshifter… jeez. Dude, you don’t even need those softwares in Windows.

    No games, not true? Wow, I don’t see Halo 2, Far Cry, CNC3, etc on Mac, or do you?

    Grow up, no operating system is perfect. Not windows, not even your apple.

  36. Aerii Says:

    I’m a Vista user, and the reason why people downgrade so often is that they’re not used to it. I mean, give someone Vista for a week, and they’ll find it’s exactly the same. Not to mention people are reading old reviews saying that Vista sucks without trying it.

  37. Apple Says:

    I worked for Dell (ironically) and owns an XPS. I’ve been meaning to purchase a macbook coz i wanna experience it myself. But I was too hesitant as I don’t know how to operate it. =D

  38. Jordan Says:

    I have recently started using a macbook after using windows for 10 years and found it much easier to use. It does have its flaws but I still find it the best operating system. The reason many windows users hate macs is because they’re too unlike windows. That is the #1 reason, no matter what the windows users say.

  39. SilverOne Says:

    Most of this are very lame and you should donate your make to some1 who can properly use it… rofl, windows shortcuts are much better than mac… you’re an idiot.

  40. Jeffrey Says:

    Ok well here is the deal. True, some of these are debatable. But for the most part, Vista is absoultley 100% way better than a Mac. You can’t even compare these 2 operating systems. On a recent contest, users were more likey to hack a Mac than a Vista. Which then is saying that with it’s upgrades, both of the operating systems are safe- but Vista is just safer.
    You can’t copy & paste on spotlight or cut & paste.
    If your going to get an Apple product, I suggest you buy an iPod. For me, Macs are not worth buying. It’s true that Vista has more software in it. What’s an operating system without a good hardware? Vista is better in my opinion because it was made with more software in it. In case you guys don’t know, Bill Gates helped Steve Jobs build the first Mac(intosh).
    Which then later says that Bill Gates knows more about computers than Steve Jobs. Yes, Macs are more beautiful and elegant than PC’s, but that doesn’t matter, its the overall performance that counts. There are more Windows users than Macs. All in all, Vista and Windows make a better combination than Mac OS X. Then, why do people prefer Windows than Macs? – Because they’re better.

  41. macsucks Says:

    I have vista. And i have a iphone. The iphone does everything it can do on vista like mac.. i think thats pretty stupid of them but i obviously am grateful. i used to want a mac but i started getting into mmorpgs, which led into fps which led to crysis and i realized how much i would regret getting a mac and ended up spending the money for a macbook on a custom desktop.. another thing that you cant do for a mac is upgrade your system to make it above average macs besides the mac pro which starts at 2,700 i think… I spent $1000 on my desktop which is as much as a macbook with like 1gb of ram and nothing to do besides WoW,make crap music in garage band, and not having to wait very long to start it up. i have a friend who makes music with his macbook and says its so much better for making music and editing videos when you can get better things on a pc like sony vegas and… well im not sure what is good for music.

  42. death_knight Says:

    1. windows is more compatible and customizable because it is the most widely used operating system in existence. this is because it’s cheap and sucks.
    4. o.k. you got me here i do love the use of short cuts in windows
    5. cant say ether way. but if its a “personal taste” thing you cant really use it to support your standing
    6. hey ever herd of the drag and drop practice
    7 what your sating mac doesn’t do it in REALITY does do
    8. as a general thing i have to agree with you. BUT personally i have to disagree because the games i play (blizzard games and a few others) are well supported on a Mac
    9. again windows is cheaper!!!!

    now to argue some points as to why Mac is better
    1. Mac as a whole has better Physical properties. the frame work for all of there computers (notebooks & desktops) are made out of METAL. when i see a window laptop or desktop sometimes all i see is PLASTIC. if i wanted to i could take my laptop and snap it in half.
    2. for anyone in the internet explorer boat, time for a reality check because that boat is sinking. safari loads faster runs faster and doesn’t have all the annoying toolbars that come w/ the computer or from all the programs you install/download.
    3. Mac is more expensive for several reasons:
    A. more durable/longer life
    B. the programs are just all around better than a windows. for example Imovie for Mac is wonderful. movie maker i sometimes have crash on me ever 4 seconds.
    4. on a mac every thing is easy to find

    now before you idiots go and get mad at me know this
    I AM NOT A DIE HARD MAC LOVER
    yes i will get a Mac asap but I’m also a gamer so i will always have a windows. though when i can afford to gat a new one with XP witch is impossible I’m going to beat this one repeatedly with a hammer before i throw it out.

    one more thing that i have noticed with Mac Os over time is that they are consistence unlike windows witch went from 98 to a redesigned XP and then to the piece of crap vista. no mater what any one says vista will always suck.
    for my final word: if Apple and Microsoft just combined the best of the 2 operating systems the world would be a better place.
    if any of you disagree with these points go to my youtube (pepsispaghetti) and send me a message explaining why you disagree and i will make a video to explain your ignorance.

  43. Fullmetal99012 Says:

    To C172pilot, Pcs do come with an Ir remote, “Front row is very nice and comes with a IR remote control. Don’t see that on a PC?” y computer came with the remote, and the Tv tuner. TO EVERYONE: Vista does not suck. It has its problems, but so does every Os. You cannot say that there is a perfect Os because as long as Humans are designing the software, there will be problems.

  44. Michelle Says:

    …AND in the age of the green revolution, Windows has a recycle bin while Macs only offers trash.

    What a shame.

  45. Matt Says:

    @Michelle: Good point! There’s room for Apple to innovate here. They could have *three* recycle bins – one for documents, one for apps, and one for photos. That way everything is nicely sorted for when the recycling truck arrives! :)

  46. Daniel Krishnan Says:

    well…as far as im concern, visually Mac looks better, that why macs dont need to mod their taskbar…etc… lol jokes…but it does make sense huh? any way, the ultimate reason why mac is better than windows is, up to now, i never get any virus infection.mac dont need antivirus…yeai!!!! save money in the long run and ur system dont slow down baby…come on man…mac is awesome…windows is only awesome because u can play more computer games!!!!

  47. RayRay Says:

    Having used a mac for 3 years and just recently a pc laptop running VISTA, i can truthfully say macs are way more user friendly. VISTA makes you jump through hoops just to do the most simplistic of tasks. Take for example the straight forward task of using a portable USB/flash drive. On a mac, you plug it in and it appears on the desktop. EASY…On VISTA you have to search through the computer just to find your USB!!…Also the scrolling on the touchpad is unresponsive and very hard to make it do what you want compared to using two fingers to scroll on a mac touchpad. I could go on all day about the little things because there are definately more than 10 but in conclusion, the VISTA system is plain confusing and simple tasks like configuring simple settings is time consuming and pointless half of the time.

  48. Isaiah Says:

    macs suck they freeze up when you have music laying and using more than 1 application playing like itunes word and firefox window is a customiseable computer you can have your desktop easly personalised like especialy a usb its so simple the problem is that so many people a re lazy and they dont wanna customise it i have a neatly sorted desktop were my documents apps and movies and saved files are the only time when Pcs freeze up is when people keep clicking and clicking that or you have a virus or slow internet pcs are whay better macs cant work with photo editting and most stuff. navigating is much more easyer on a pc the search toolbar is easyer. on macs theres a popup window when you try to download things like pictures. most people would think that macs are easyer but tehy are not you cant upgrade a macs hardrive without spending over 100 dollars. I took appart my hardrive and upgraded it from 500 gigs to 1500 gigs alots of space but i still can find everything i need. plus pc are easyer to take apart and fix i can take mine part and put it back together and im only 15

  49. Phil Says:

    @Isaiah

    First of all Mac’s are more than capable of running more than 1 application at a time. In fact Mac’s are well known for there multi tasking abilities. I can even run OSX and windows 7 at the same time, full speed with other apps open.

    Second you say that OSX cannot use photo editing software? Does Photoshop, Aperture, Gimp or iPhoto not count? In fact iPhoto is a very good photo editor that comes free with all new Macs as part of the iLife suite. A seriously handy piece of software.

    Finally, you can upgrade your Mac these days with standard PC parts. While maybe not as easy as the PC side it still can be done.

    Also JEFFREY I would like to know what software that Windows come with that it way above what OSX offers? Is it Minesweeper?

  50. Jonny Says:

    wow thanks for that, probabaly the first positive review of a windows compared to mac that I’v read. I hate people who take sides, especially those who kick windows down to the ground and stamp on them. It’s not about who has the better OS, it’s really about which one suits you better. I think those “mac lovers” who complain about windows so much have too much time on their hands. You’re using a mac already why are you complaining about something that’s not even affecting your lives??

  51. Jonny Says:

    Also I’d like to add, that number 3 is probably the most important. Compare the price of an average mac with an average pc…

  52. Benj Says:

    I’ve been using a Mac for about a year now after using mainly Linux but also pleanty of Windoze in the past. I have to say, the Mac is not the amazing wonder computer I’d heard people talk about although there are some nice things about it.

    Here are some of my pet peeves:

    1. I’m in the UK and Mac doesn’t really support the UK keyboard! I have a so called Mac UK keyboard but it has several keys missing. It’s basically a US keyboard with the # replaced with a British pound sign. That’s all very well except that # (called the hash key in the UK) is damned important in the UK too!!

    2. I’m a programmer and I like navigating by typing because it’s so much faster and I work super fast. Even with Full keyboard access the Mac is seriously weak on keyboard navigation. How come I can’t just type into finder to navigate to a particular file! Even brain dead windows can do that.

    3. I have 3 monitors, WTF would I want to navigate over 3 screens just to get to the menu bar for the application I’m using!!!!

    4. I have a MacPro with 16Gb of RAM and 8 cores. It cost 2500 pounds (work paid) and yet it has a really crappy graphics card!! An equivalently powered windows/linux box would have cost me 1/4 the price and would have had top of the range video hardware.

    The only thing that Mac really has over Windows is:

    1. It’s prettier (although not as pretty as the new Ubuntu Linux 9.04)
    2. It is less inclined to constantly irritate the user with messages
    3. It’s significantly more secure (since the guys at Apple replaced OS9 with something based on FreeBSD Unix (a very secure operating system).

    However, for me Mac and Windows both play second fiddle to Linux which is far and away my favorite operating system. It’s as pretty and graceful as Mac these days. Incredibility reliable, incredibly flexible for advanced users (where Mac really really falls down).

    Mac is my least favorite, because it’s interface is almost too simple. It so often forces me into the grind of massive numbers of mouse clicks to get things done. Where other operating systems would just have an extra feature which would do what I want.

    Summary, Macs are great for kids and beginners, not so good for professionals.

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  54. Peter Says:

    I’ve got both XP (not Vista as my PC came with XP and I just can’t be bothered to update it, its working fine in XP (if it ain’t broke don’t fix it)) and an iMac (which has a few problems and I may need to get it replaced, dead pixel, buzzing fan and a possibly DD on the way out and its only 4 weeks old…Must of got a bad one T_T)
    Even so I know the differences between them and I know that each one has advantages over the other. For instance, you can do alot more in Explorer than you can in Finder via dialogue boxes as Windows has Shell expansions that add menus to the Explorer shell and menus, while OSx does have this in some way they are all hidden in a submenu.

    As for games I have no idea why people are saying OSx has more games or even Games consoles have more games, pretty much all console games end up on a PC and have you ever walked into a games store and seen a shelf on Mac games? I’m finding it hard just to get games for my iMac.
    But still Macs are good and so is Windows, I use both as much as eachother, XP more at the moment as I have no important files on my mac.

  55. leo Says:

    why you do not speak about viruses?
    why you do not speak about registries problems
    about crases about…………………………..?????????????????
    Mac OS X FOR EVER

  56. diipadaapa Says:

    If you want customization for your personal computer, install Linux or some BSD variant. Those are _not_ closed source software and you get to participate in the decision making process.

  57. S. Bala Murugan Says:

    Personal Experiences with mac.

    Hardware too fragile (Drop it once you are stuck with some or the other problem. Drop it after warranty period then you can pretty much buy a new one rather than repairing it) – Try an IBM laptop in this matter.

    Extended warranty is too costly… (compare with hp, dell or IBM)

    The moment you think of upgrading, forget about affordability… ( Things are going forward rapidly these days who wants to get stuck into a older configuration?)

    Unfair price difference in most countries (India, China etc.,)

    One same model for everyone????? Which self respecting person will spend a lot on a gadget which looks exactly same as million’s (I stopped thinking about mac when people around me started buying mac)… if you think mac is sexy then go see adamo by dell, voo doo by HP

    Windows (aka P.C) advantages:

    More flexible as a OS ( I mean only OS not all the software packages included, for that matter even finder and explorer are applications )

    Customizable…. (Try changing the apple logo in the menu bar into your company logo or adding the most powerful graphics card in the market into a mac)

    Technical Support… especially in Remote places like mine in India where the nearest apple store is thousand miles away and windows / PC support is two blocks away…

    Media center and gaming …. That needs no explanation

    Feature rich: Touchscreen tablets (Even multi touch) , Finger print reader, Face recognition, liquid cooling system (In Hot climates) and many more built right into your machine… here please dont give me “who needs those stuff” crap (Remember Magsafe, Laser drilled LED, Magnetic latch, mighty mouse)

    As a Urban and Regional Planner – CAD and GIS (Most people using macs don’t use such specialized programs eg. structural analysis, transport modelling etc… even when same kind of program available for both platforms the windows ones are better – don’t tell me ArchiCAD is better than AutoCAD)

    As you all know unofficially, you can easily (Just simple installation no command line n stuff) put mac os in a pc ( some companies thought its legal too…) only If you are so paranoid about OS and still want a better hardware.

    The one and only weakness you can have in a wintel combination is, Viruses – No matter what, you will get a virus some time or the other… But if you have an average IQ in terms of computers then i don’t think its a problem. (eg. You will get bitten by a mosquito in the tropics no matter what you do, but if you have some common sense you wont get malaria)

  58. Techdude21 Says:

    OK, i think one thing is for sure, Macs cant beat Linux, but do you see Linux fans go around saying that every minute no! Mac users also cant be quiet and just make stupid comments about how they are safer then windows and your wasting time using a PC, in a recent hacking competition a mac yes a mac fell first, so even if it was the wireless card had third party software that still means mac is not the most secure operating system in the whole world, yes windows might have lost of “viruses” but so does mac, and Linux, and no not just “Adware” or “Spyware” but Worms, Trojans, and if this world had a higher number of ASM coders we might just witness the worlds first mac rootkit “i dont know if there is one for macs” or witness the return of self reproducing viruses, so don’t try saying “oh macs are better then pc” because they don’t get many viruses doesn’t mean they are secure, if you do keep on buying macs, then we will see how the tables turn.

  59. My god people why are you all so worked up on defending your poor Macs??? Says:

    Wow guys, seriously, the most important thing here is that all of you here who love apple computers should just realize that the most important thing is that you know your computer is better than anyones IN YOUR OWN MIND! Why do you guys spend time writing essays regarding how macs are better? They are just a computer for gods sake after all. Writing essays like fanatics just makes it seem as if you guys are trying to convince YOURSELVES not someone else that mac computers are better than windows-running machines. Myself I prefer Windows because if you treat windows nicely, and dont trash it- that is where you get all your registry faliure commetns from, it’ll be a much more rewarding experience using it because with windows the world is there to get you; unfortunately with Mac- there is only apple out to get you. If there were the same amount of software and support from Mac and from Windows, I’d chose a mac though because macs ARE nice.

  60. bear Says:

    well i m not a mac fan. but rather than arguing about mac pc vs windows pc. why dont u just install mac on a pc? dude i own an imac 2009 version and i have a pc.
    both have core 2 duo. On my pc i have installed mac os x. Guess what i found my pc running leopard better than mac!!

  61. Wayne Bloss Says:

    Every answer to “the Mac can’t do this” is “Oh, all you have to do is install this utility” or “Why would you want to do that? That’s just wrong”. LOL

  62. George Klein Says:

    From all the comments I could conclude, that the MAC OS is net superior to WINDOWS VISTA.
    From my own experience I say the same think. There is no reason to justify it. Just buy a MAC try it and see it yourself. That’s what I did a few months ago, and realized, that I should have done this years ago.
    I am a power user, I use the computer for photo restoration. Almost all books about Photoshop and Adobe related programs are written for the MAC with the Windows equivalent shown in brackets. I haven’t seen even one Photoshop Professional using a PC. All of them have been using a MAC for many many years.

    I don’t say that everything Windows is doing is worst than what the MAC does.
    No. But if we put the two operating systems side by side there are lots of things the MAC does better than a PC, but only a few things the PC does better than the MAC.

    So, for all of you thinking that VISTA is better than MAC OS just keep using it and “enjoy” it. I prefer to enjoy my MAC.

  63. frida Says:

    MACS ALL THE WAY!!!

  64. tux Says:

    “Sean Says:
    December 13th, 2008 at 5:44 am

    I understand the gist of your article, and am in no way angered by it. However…

    I can debate each and every point.

    #8. Again, the Mac runs more games than the PC now. See #2. And who plays games on a computer when you can play them on a console in front of a 50″ HD LCD from the comfort of your bed or couch? Not to mention there are many more games for the consoles than for PC’s.”

    The user who said this clearly has no idea of what windows can run, LOL hes an ignorant at best. how in the world can u make such a claim that mac runs more games than the PC now, geeezz

  65. nathan harris Says:

    you can change the wallpaper on mac too, most of the stuff you can do with a mac.

  66. joe Says:

    PCs are better- you can get higher specs for a lower price, there’s more of a range, its more versatile and customizable. Macs are for working musicians and design guys :/. Macs limit their appeal by only allowing mac OSes on apple hardware. If I don’t like the very few designs of that hardware, I’m stuffed.

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